I have such fond memories of New York Seltzer! Going to pizza places with my mom and ordering it and pretending that is was something else fizzy to go along with my speghetti and meat balls! So excited to see I'm not the only one who remembers one of the most fabulous drinks ever!!!

I could have lived on New York Seltzer if it was enough to sustain human life. I liked the root beer and the grape most of all.

I don't know where Big Lots found this stuff, but I found it there too. I had the impression that maybe they found a crate sitting around since the 80's! However, one reason it wasn't quite as I remembered is that all of it at the Big Lots I saw were sugar free and had a Splenda-type (sucralose) sweetener.

I also bought the 4pack at Big Lots. The strawberry is ok, but the peach is terrible, nothing like it used to be. What happened to the real stuff. I wish they would bring it back!

Are you sure you picked up a case of New York Seltzer zzz? The way I remember it the Original New York Seltzer didn't have anything even close to being artificial in it.

Ijust found a variety of NYS at a Big Lots in Indianapolis. The vanilla cream is good, but it's been so long since I've had NYS, I can't really tell how similar it is to the old stuff. They definitely didn't used to be an 'all diet' line - I remember distinctly there being diet and full-sugared versions of some flavors. They never used to have much color, either - but most of the flavors I saw are now brightly/intensely colored. The URL www.newyorkseltzer.net is on the label, but I can't get the site to come up. I'd love to find out more - why is NYS back, and why is it so different than before? Man, the peach and blueberry flavors were the best way back when.

I also found and purchased a 4 pack at the local Big Lots in Tacoma, Washington. An old memory brought back, I thought. I put those babies on ice took a big gulp and what the hell. This was the nastest thing I ever tasted. Black Cherry was my favorite back in the day but this stuff here should be removed from the shelves before you make some one sick. It's bitter, has nothing sweet tasting in it. I fact I would be very pleased to get my 2 bucks back. Buyer beware, other flavors maybe o'kay but I'm not willing to risk my taste buds or another duce on this stuff.

Big Lots in Kansas as well...at least we know where to get it now. Not in the little bottles like they used to be, but still the same logo. Next thing you know they will have Garbage Pail Kids also...LOL

I also found it at Big Lots and it was just as good as I remembered... I think it was just a little before it's time... I'm sure that if it was back on the market it would do great. There are so many flavored waters on the market today and none of them are as good as the Orignal New York Seltzer.. What a Blast From The Past Thanks Big Lots...

found this stuff at Big Lots in Orlando FL. I used to love the stuff back in the 80s. This is now with sucralose. i thought the old stuff had sugar. I bought vanilla cream. Why is this stuff only at big lots?

I bought some New York Seltzer when I was visiting my son in St. Louis at Dierbergs grocery store and it was great--light colored--really good black cherry. I went to Big Lots and the label is exactly the same but the colors are real dark and the taste is completely different. I have tried the web site but it doesn't work. I would like to know why they are marketing two different drinks under the same label. I know the cost is a lot cheaper at Big Lots but the drinks should be the same with the exact same label. I need to find out what is going on.

New York Seltzer (I mean "The Original New York Seltzer")doesn't seem like the type of company to set up a distribution channel exclusively for Big Lots. I hope it's not because they feel they can't compete with Vitamin Water and Red Bull, because New York Seltzer is different and the public (namely us) knows it. BTW, I loved that Concord Grape when I was growing up. Good Stuff!

I also bought some New York Seltzer at Big Lots recently. It was nothing at all like I remembered. The New York Seltzer I remembered was always clear but the different taste were absolutely fantastic. The stuff I bought yesterday tasted like some sort of diet water. They had vanilla cream and peach, the peach has a color to it. I really wish I could have the original. I have been searching for it for the last 14years without success. I was very disappointed when I tasted the stuff from Big Lots. Please does anyone know how to find the real "The Original New York Seltzer"?

Big Lots is where product goes to die once the big vendors don't want it anywhere. They are just what the name states "Big Lots" as in, they by lots of leftover items other stores don't want at a deal and sell it for a deal. I beleive Festival Foods was carrying the New York Seltzer line. Now that they've stopped acarrying it. Big Lots is clearing it out....

Whoa whoa whoa! I thought they stopped making this stuff sometime in the mid 90s

Just so you don't think I'm totally illiterate. I just type too fast for my brain to keep up. I see I meant anymore but put anywhere. Instead of buy I used by, I forgot the i before e except after c theory, and there's no a in carrying

Wow, I can't see my prior post here, I hope you all can. Anyhow I was just going to say that even Wikipedia has no info, *sigh*. There is actually no page in the english WP for NYS at all, sadly.

Alright well it's still missing, so here it is again- Read some of those labels more carefully folks - some of these new versions (the Vanilla Cream and Raspberry, that we found- not Peach, Strawberry, or Orange Tangerine) contain sugar (actual sugar- which is rare these days). Then they contain sucralose as well, and yes, I think it used to be an all-sugar or all-diet thing, in the past. Also they have definitely changed the color concept (from the barely-colored versions of the 80's). I tried the VC today, one I remember loving, and it is basically just excellent diet Cream Soda. But it is definitely diet- even the claim that a serving is only 5 Calories is one I remember being printed on the [labels of] diet line NYS. Now all the labels say that, though they don't identify the product as "diet". I too, am frustrated in my attempts to get the story about where NYS went, why it's back and why it's different. The URL is definitely not working. I wish somebody who knew something would bring us up to date! And I definitely wish someone would buy the rights not just to the art/label/name, but to the *original actual recipes*. With you guys on that one, big time!

The original went bankrupt in 1993. Someone must has bought the rights to the name http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-14833387.html

Well, this is good to know, sort of.

I saw it on the shelf and about fell over. Even though it's not the same, I still enjoyed it. It would be great if the original product would come back full-force. I truly believe it would be competitive in an over-saturated market. It's nice to see so many loyal fans out there. Blueberry was my all-time favorite!

I had gotten the big lots ad in the newpaper today. To my suprise they have new york seltzer for sell. I havent seen this stuff in many years. I'm glad I came across this website. I dont think I'll be buying any. Alot of people say It's not the same. I remember It coming in a little glass bottle. I sure did love the stuff.

I totally remember these drinks from way back. It was practically the only thing my mom drank when pregnant with my youngest sister. Now pregnant with my third child, I find myself getting very frustrated trying to find this marvelous drink to quench my thirst and satisfy my own cravings! I've found them at Big Lots as well (in Redding,CA), but the only flavor available is Vanilla Cream. I agree the blueberry was great, but the all-time best was the chocolate cherry!!!

My mom brought be back some from Big Lots in Lincoln, NE. My sister and I used to drink this stuff all the time- we used to have so much fun picking out all the different kinds we wanted before we took off for vaction. I thought it tasted great. I would love for someone to develop this again! My nephew even loved it.

Uncle John's Pancake House in Toledo, OH has 4 flavors of New York Seltzer on the menu. I had the Vanilla Creme today and it brought back tons of memories from my childhood (having a New York Seltzer was a treat for me and my siblings!) Now I just have to find out who supplies the restaurant and I am set!

I WAS WALKING THRU BIG LOTS HERE IN OMAHA, NE LAST WEEK AND MUCH TO MY SURPRISE I SAW A SHELF FULL OF NEW YORK SELTZER. I BOUGHT 4 PACKS AND WENT BACK THE OTHER DAY FOR MORE. I LOVED THIS STUFF THEN AND STILL DO NOW!! ALTHOUGH THE ORANGE TANGERINE...I COULD DO WITHOUT.

I also found some at Big Lots in Harrisburg, Pa. Vanilla & Cream, Strawberry, Tangerine....my memory is of a pizza w/ Root Beer NewYork Seltzer. Almost as heavenly as Nikkia in 11th grade. One sugesstion, lose the sucralose and sugar, it will be just as good and better for you, w/o that after taste. Bring back Root Beer!!

Big Lots in AZ also has NYS but in limited supply. I agree not exactly the same but who cares still tastes better than most other soft drinks. Also if anyone lives in Royal Oak MI that's where the cartons say it was bottled. I've had no luck in finding the bottler - maybe someone who lives near there can find the plant.

My mother said she had a surprise for me inside the fridge. When I opened it up I saw my childhood favoritse NYS, she even remembered my favorite flavor, rasberry. I quickly opened one despite the color looking more like a soda. I was very disappointed. NOTHING like the original. The color and taste were closer to a dark cherry soda compared the the transparent pink color and light flavoring of the past. Someone Please bring back the original!!

I to found the New York Seltzer at BigLots, but it is not the NYS of the past. It taste like a diet soda. I was really disappointed.I have the cream and cherry. The cherry never had color like this stuff does. BRING BACK THE REAL NEW YORK SELTZER

IM SO SAD THAT NYS NO LONGER EXISTS...ATLEAST AS I REMEMBER IT GROWING UP, IN THE LITTLE 10 oz BOTTLES. BLUEBERRY, AND PEACH WERE MY FAVS, I HEARD COKE IS THE ONE THAT OWNED THE RIGHTS TO IT SINCE THEY OWN ALOT OF OTHER DRINKS BESIDES COCA COLA, ANYWAYS IM GLAD THERE ARE OTHERS OUT THERE, BESIDES ME WHO WISH THEY WOULD BRING BACK OUR FAVORITE DRINK, PLUS FOND MEMORIES OF BEING A KID. YOU ALL ARE WONDERFUL. :O)

Found ONYS at Big Lots in Western KY. Not the same for sure, but it sure brought back memories. Why is this version colored? Why the artificial ingredients? Does anyone remember who first bottled it? Check out this article: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3289/is_n11_v159/ai_9099446 Apparently the brand name has been discontinued. Someone needs to buy it and resurrect the product!Where the Big Lots supply has come from is anyone's guess.

I also just by chance saw the NYS at the cash wrap as I was leaving the Big Lots store. I couldn't believe that it was there. I too used to love this drink..but it does have an aftertaste that the other did not. I hope that someone does resurrect the orginal version. Someone could make a grip of cash on this. Someboday better get on the ball. I think there difinitely is a market for this. Especially for all those who grew up in the 80's drinking this product. I loved the Root Beer, BB, and vanilla cream. My suggestion is less artifical and continue to keep it in glass bottles. :)

I just got some of the Big Lots NYS and all I have to say is, no wonder the new owners didn't succeed it taste nothing like the original, yuck!!! I almost bought a bunch I'm glad I didn't. If I remember correctly the only color the real stuff had was from the label. They were overpriced 10oz. bottles of heaven and worth every overpriced cent. Someone has gotta have the old recipes. I happened to have some capitol to play with, I'm going to look into it. Oh what a fun little side business. Maybe I'll let my 13yr. run it. Wish me luck loyal "real" NYS drinkers!!!!!!!!!

The only flavors of NYS I remember were lime, raspberry, peach, original, lime/raspberry, lemon and cherry. There were no sweeteners and they were absolutely delicious ice cold. I use to drink a six pack a day and kids I went to school with thought I was crazy because they would rather have soda.

I found this stuff the other day and bought it due to all the fond memories seeing it produced. I was really bummed though when I drank it and realized it is made with sucrolose, yuck! I guess as a kid anything that isn't water is great.

i found 2 4 packs at Big Lots in Uniontown PA, Raspberry and Strawberry, back in the day i hardly ever drank these flavors (i was a Peach and Grape man) but the taste seems familiar, anyhow the nostaligia of the bottle makes me want to ride my bike

Does anyone have a picture of the original to show the differences side by side? I too would take long walks as a kid to a convenient store in the later '80's... just to pick up a little glass bottle or three of the Original New York Seltzer. Yes, it was great how it was only faintly colored, no artificial sweeteners and tasted fantastic. I have never found an only sugar-sweetened flavored seltzer ever since. Really, the closest thing is normal seltzer water with flavoring and NO sweeteners of any sort. All the rest today are just plain gross.

I recently bought an individual bottle from a random party store in Canton, MI. The owner of the store says the supplier brings them in once in awhile. Three weeks later I found a four-pack at Hillers Market in Ann Arbor. I thought it was interesting to find it twice within three weeks after not seeing it for 15-20 years. It is supposedly bottled in Royal Oak, MI. I'm planning to ask around, as I live in the Detroit, MI area. Someone is bound to know.

Okay so today I was out at a Gyro Restuarant and they had a color of NYS and I was like "OMG no way" I was such a huge drinker of this "Original" stuff. I was so excited and bought the raspberry one. I was so disappointed too. It had an after tase, color was darker, and it was not at all like the Original. I too could not get on the link listed on the bottle. But I agree someone needs to re-distributing this again. I think with so many people of the 80's would so buy this and I know my frige would be stocked. I haven't seen it anywhere else. My favorite was the peach. Yum!!!! Maybe someone can find out what is the deal....

I find it difficult to believe that they would just sell NYS at Big Lots! I think there's a more logical explaination for all of this becuase the way I remember NYS is that it didn't have anything even close to being arttificial in it.

I am excited to see that the New York Seltzer is back! I was just on vacation with my family in Wisconsin and I discovered it at this little grocery store in Balsam Lake! I was sooooo excited because I remember drinking it like crazy as a kid. My husband thought I was crazy because I was so happy to see it again. It was actually exactally how I remembered it. It was still in a glass little bottle with the old label just as I remembered. I only bought one (stupid) the strawberry one-- which I thought was o.k. My favorite back in the day was grape, and black cherry. Next time I go back I will have to buy them all!

Holy Crap!! I can't wait to tell all of my childhood friends!!

Ok, I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought it looked different. I found Orange Tangerine, Strawberry and Raspberry flavors at Big Lots in Mattoon, Illinois. I bought the orange, and was excited to get it. Although, it didn't taste like I remembered and it didn't look like I remembered either, it wasn't very sweet. I thought maybe it was just the orange so I got the strawberry and it is too sweet, what gives? I miss the REAL Original New York Seltzer.

Is there anyway to get some NYS in Canada?? My family and I were just talking about it and we NEED some!!!! It brings back memories for my sister and I...Any ideas of where to get it here, or send it to us?? :)

Well all we need is the recipe and the rights to manufacture and distribute it...who to get into contact with... I bought two lighte Orignial New York Seltzer Water signs off craigslist. Way too random, they are my prized possesions.

Just to set some of you straight and give you some real history. My Grandfather started a company way back in the day, late 1800's. It was called New York Seltzer Water Co. He made the original seltzer water that came in the old style siphon bottles. He used to deliver it in a horse and wagon. My father took over the business and I remember filling the bottles in our shop in Detroit, MI. It was very big in the Jewish community. Unfortunately, due to ignorance on my father's part, they never trademarked the name and thus, the name was stolen and ended up becoming the industry it became. I still have some of the old crates and am always stumbling across old bottles in antique stores. By the way, the taste wasn't even comparable to ours, not too mention, our never went flat from sitting !

Sad story. They were good stuff. A great alternative to the syrupy soft drinks.

While pregnant with my second child (1988), I was hospitalized with kidney stones and was so nauseated I was losing weight FAST. The nurses begged me to tell them what I thought I could stomach, but nothing would do. My husband finally brought me peanut butter and saltines from home, and 2 packs of Grape NYS, all of which I kept in my bedside table. I sipped and nibbled my way back to health, and now, I sure do miss the stuff. The Grape and Orange were my favorites.

My fiance and I sat reminiscing about these little bottles of seltzer water we used to go to the local gas station for. We couldn't remember the name till I found this sight! What memories! Definitely wish the original was still around!

I was in Big Lots in Dickson TN this weekend and found four single bottles of NYS. I had looked for years for it, but couldn't find it. The label was exactly like I had remembered, I knew what it was as soon as I saw it. They had three Rasberry and one strawberry, I bought all four. I got on line this morning to type in the web site, to see what beverage distributor in this area was carring the product again, and discovered the web site doesn't work and all of you, just like me wanting more of this product. My favorite was always the vanilla cream. I don't remember if it was only 5 calories way back when, but I do remember it being my favorite. I hope Big Lots gets more.

I stopped at a gas station halfway between Duluth nad Minneapolis MN (in Hinckley, MN very small town) and found this. It's exactly the same as it was..no sugar, calories, etc. I wish I could find it in my hometown.

Found NYS a few months back at he Big Lots in Warwick, RI. Couldn't believe my eyes! The Vanilla Creme was still yummy. No web site found. I was willing to order some. I'm on a quest.

So syked to find this stuff...Even if it isn't the same it still beats sucking down a pepsi or coke. Found it at a few corner stores around Michigan..Going to check out BigLots next when i'm feeling trashy.

After wondering why I couldn't get any info or to the web site I decided to do a search on the domain name. I have not called because I simply don't have the time at the moment. I recently found NYS at Vince & Joe's in Clinton Township. After asking one of the cashiers I was told they carry it all of the time. I bought both the raspberry and the peach and both tasted like they did when I was a teen. Actually a few days later I gave my husband a taste of the raspberry and he cracked me up because he said, "Isn't this the stuff you were drinking the day I proposed to you?" Actually I had a feeling he was going to 'pop the question' and my stomach was turning... the seltzer helped calm it down. I was shocked he even remembered that after all these years! Anyway... This is the info that I found: Domain Name: newyorkseltzer.net Registrar: THE NAME IT CORPORATION DBA NAMESERVICES.NET Registrant Contact Name: Richard C Tenney Address: 4600 Courville Detroit, MI 48224 US Email Address: rctenney@hotmail.com Phone Number: 3136407829 Fax Number: Administrative Contact Name: Richard C Tenney Address: 4600 Courville Detroit, MI 48224 US Email Address: rctenney@hotmail.com Phone Number: 3136407829 Fax Number: Technical Contact Name: Richard C Tenney Address: 4600 Courville Detroit, MI 48224 US Email Address: rctenney@hotmail.com Phone Number: 3136407829 Fax Number: Record Created on........ 2005-04-01 18:01:06.000 Record last updated on... 2005-04-01 18:01:06.000 Expire on................ 2015-04-01 18:01:06.000

Just had a Peach NYS and it was great. Looked for it online and came up with this page. Remember Root Beer Flavor? hmmmmm. Delicious.

Its nice to see so many other people like me who miss NYS. man that stuff was great. I am glad someone tracked down some info... I am definitely going to make a call. I can't imagine a product that good going out of business. thats why it was so weird when they disappeared. Hoping to have a sip some time down the line... if its real.

this actually jus came out again . its soo yummy . YAY !

I am so sad, the Big Lots sold the Peach (better than nothing), but it is gone and not returned. I loved the Cola n Berry flavor the best. I cannot believe this product is not in the aisles competing with the other stuff still!

it was clear. and in little glass bottles. and wasnt the label some sort of styrofoam wrap? I remember peeling off the labels....bomb stuff....i remember root beer being a fav

i was just thinking about em tonight and got online to search where to get em, when had em when i was in elementary school in arizona and i live in ohio now and no one seems to no em, i found a site that said discontinued so disappointed i'm goin to look at biglots tomorrow i don't understand if they came from cali i read somewhere, then why would they be at big lots when that's in ohio don't remember a biglots out west and why were they called new york seltzer if they came from cali? and if the idea came from a guy in michigan how did it get all the way to cali to be made? interesting, that sucks they have no glass bottles that was the best and i used to peel the paper too how funny, i think my fav was root beer i can't remember back then.

I love the origional it gave such great burps!!! If they would only market it I know it would be a great seller! I too used to peel the label off of the glass bottle. It was sort of foamy like but really thin. I MISS IT!!!

i have been telling my kids about this drink. i love root beer flavored water. can we by it any more? it is great when i diet. please sell it again.love them new york seltzer

For a brief, wonderful time, New York Seltzer was the undisputed king of "must have" after school alternative refreshments. The year was 1987. We argued about which LP ruled more: The Joshua Tree or Girls Girls Girls. A young Howie Mandel was our guide to all things funny. Doug Williams was making history as he led the Redskins on an epic rout of the Broncos. These were magical times. As we drove around in our domestic midsize sedans packed to the brim with our stonewashed clad comrades, New York Seltzer was essentially the sidecar to 1987's Kawasaki Ninja. New York Seltzer - the drinktrack of my freshman year. Thanks Pal, Great job!

I remember that the New York Seltzer brand had a chocolate soda as well. It was something I really enjoyed and have since never been able to find. I really wish that someone would pick up the idea again.

Oh god, this stuff needs to make a big comeback!! Root beer was my favorite, followed closely by black cherry.

Loved the raspberry flavor. Wasn't to sweet like the stuff that is out now.

I'm drinking a vanilla cream NYS right now. Just bought it at the gas station. It's in the glass bottle, says Naturally Flavored and 5 calories per serving. It tastes great. I remember these when I was a kid. I had no idea these are bottled in Royal Oak Mi. That is right down the street from me. From what my friend tells me they are making a comeback. I don't know. Their website isn't up. www.newyorkseltzer.net Hey does anyone know if these have Caffeine in them? It doesn't say anywhere on the bottle one way or the other.

Oh how I miss NY Seltzer. Black Cherry was my fave. They really need to bring it back and make it like they did in the 80's. The reason you're finding them at BigLots is because they are a close-out store. They get stock from stores that are closing on the cheap and then resell them at a somewhat lower price to you and me. Obviously someone was bottling a crappy, re-vamped rendition of the original, it didn't sell because it sucked, so they sold the remaining stock to BigLots.

I saw the same at Big Lots here in VA. I didn't buy it because I thought it was different stuff. If I remember correctly, the original came in "glass bottles?" Didn't they?

Yes! Glass bottles...I found them at Big Lots TODAY! I am so excited that they are still in glass bottles with the original label! They have raspberry, strawberry, peach and orange tangerine. Greensboro, NC

I have been searching for something even remotely comparable to NY Seltzer and cannot find it. I would definitely love to see it back in the original form!

I bought mine at the Big Lots in Perris - the VC was my favorite and it tasted like I remember. You have to chill it like ice to taste the best. Why can't someone bring it back - this was the only stuff I drank!! I hate the new energy drinks, they taste crapier than the Peach flavor!

Just stumbled upon a display of NYS today at a Cleveland area Big Lots! I couldnt believe it, it was like finding a 100.00 bill on the ground. I checked the label thinking it was the last of a 1980's surplus that Big Lots was selling out. I was happy to see there was a website Newyorkseltzer.net....but the site didnt work....

As most of the people have commented, I was beyond suprised to NYS in Big Lots. It instantly brought back memories of summer camping trips and NYS on ice in the cooler. I was to young to remember how it tasted back them but I do remember it was my favorite drink. I would beg mom to pick some up when she went shopping. The stuff in Big Lots is definitely not the original but the flavor, combinded with nastalga, made it delicious!

My sister found it months ago at Big Lots and I just found it today (both in Richmond, VA). I am just wondering if this is leftover product and started to research to see how old this soda might be. The raspberry tastes ok to me. I also found Peach and Orange-Tangerine. It's not the same as when we were kids, but it's still ok. I am just overly cautious I guess. I still haven't seen anything about it's distribution location.

Add Big Lots in Westminster, MD to the list. My husband and I just found NYS the other day. Sounds like the same type of packaging according to previous posts. We purchased a pack each of orange-tangerine, peach, and raspberry at $2.00/4 16 oz. glass bottles. I just had a glass of the orange-tangerine with pizza tonight. It was okay, definitely diet, but nowhere near what I remember. Wonder whatever happened to Nate with the capitol from June of 2007? Hopefully if he's successful in replicating it, he'll post a link on here!

SO, DOES ANYONE HERE EVEN KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE NEW YORK SELTZER LITTLE BOTTLES, BECAUSE I REALLY WANT ONE RIGHT NOW AND CAN'T FIND IT ANYWHERE! :O( )

The Seltzer company went broke the orginal owner of the company owns a bear that just killed the owners cousin the trainer.

The grape flavor was the absolute best. I used to get myself 2 every morning on my way to work and it was like a grape soda, but better. I've found the ones at BigLots,too and they are just nasty. I truly wish that they would come back out again. I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one who misses it and has been trying to find it!

My brother and I use to mow laws and walk down to the local mini mart to get new york seltzers eveyday during the summer. That was our summer treat!!!! Boy, I miss the original.

I loved the diet chocolate. The taste was like drinking a chocolate bar, and no sugar or fat! Bring it back!

I FOUND NYS AT BIG LOTS YESTERDAY. I HAPPENED TO LOOK ON THE SHELF AND WAS IN SHOCK. I BOUGHT ALL THE FLAVORS THEY HAD STRAWBERRY, RASPBERRY, BLACK CHERRY AND ORANGE. I LOVED THE BLUEBERRY. I HAVE LOOKED FOR NYS FOR YEARS. BUT IS NOTHING LIKE I REMEMBERED. I AGREE WITH EVERYONE. IT IS A LOT DARKER AND IT HAS AN AFTER TASTE. THEY NEED TO BRING BACK THE ORIGINAL. I WONDER IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT CONSUMERS CAN DO TO BRING IT BACK. I AM GOING TO RESEARCH AND SEE IF I CAN FIND ANYTHING.